Was
the whole thing about having allegations about Russian intrusion into our
election all about covering up the fact that the Democrats were wire-tapping
Trump, and other Republicans, already? But, to avoid a Watergate
scenario, in case it was found out, they could simply attach it to the Russian
influence allegations? Was the plan to point fingers at the GOP and
Russia being in cahoots with each other dreamed up so as to explain away
illegal, Watergate-style wiretapping, so that it would be easier to get away
with it in case the reality of what the Democrats were doing got out there?
On
Saturday, March 4, 2017, during the second hour of Constitution Radio with Douglas V. Gibbs,
we addressed the allegations that Barack Obama used illegal wiretaps
against Donald J. Trump during the election season.
Here’s a transcript of what we said:
I
began the conversation. “So here we are, we’ve got Donald Trump, puts out this tweet. Here’s what he tweeted on
Twitter. Say that five times fast. ‘How long has
President Obama gone to tap my phones during the very sacred election process,
this is Nixon Watergate, bad, or sick guy.’ Watergate refers to the early
[1970s]* political Scandal which forced the resignation of President Richard
Nixon, Republican. It involved members of a campaign team to reelect the
president being caught breaking into the Democratic party’s headquarters in the
Watergate building and bugging their offices. Trump also tweeted
regarding this thing about the possibility of Obama tapping his phones;
‘Terrible just found out that Obama had my wires tapped in Trump Tower, just
before the victory, nothing found, this is McCarthyism.’ McCarthyism was
coined after the hunt for communists inside the American government and country
of the early 1950s. Trump later added, ‘Is it legal for a sitting
president to be wire tapping a race for president prior to an election turned
down by a court earlier; a new low.’
“Now,
we haven’t seen the evidence in all this, but, Trump is President, maybe he has
access to information we don’t, prior. But, you know, there are many
conservative talkers out there saying, and we talked about this earlier, Obama
is involved in a silent coup against the Trump campaign using police-state
tactics, during the election campaign, and now, shadow government bureaucrats,
and all that, embedded. So, how about you, Alex? Do you think the
Trump Tower was wiretapped, as Mr. Trump, uh, President Trump is accusing?”
Alex
Ferguson, one of my co-hosts, said, “Well, I’m like the rest of the
Republicans in the country in that is that I am scared to death of Trump’s
impulsiveness. He has a tendency to go off half-cocked. But, if he
can prove that Obama went to the FISA court and tried to get permission to wiretap
him during an election, I don’t think he has to prove that he actually did
it. That’s enough. I think.”
I
jumped in. “So, so what you’re saying is the allegation is just as good
as proof. Isn’t that what the Democrats do? If the allegation is
serious enough, that’s good enough?”
“No,”
Alex continued, “there’s a difference. If he had not gone to the FISA
court, and there’s no record of him having gone, then, there’s no there,
there. But, if he went to the FISA court and got turned down, even if he
didn’t, even if we can’t prove that he did some wiretapping without
authorization, the fact that he went to get authorization to tap Trump, that’s
enough.”
“Okay,”
I responded. “I think that’s a good way - you know, a former policy
adviser for Obama, Ben Rhodes, of course, has blasted Trump’s claims, saying
that this is ridiculous, all of the Democrats are. But, so, did he?
Did they notify FISA court and ask for this? Or, are you saying we need
to find this out?”
Alex: “Well,
we need to have some confirmation. As far as I can tell, the media is
saying that apparently Obama did go to the court. If he did, then we…”
Doug: “Then
the intent is there.”
Alex: “The
intent is there. If he did not, then we’ve got a serious problem.”
Dennis
Jackson, the executive producer of the film “Enemies
Within,” spoke up at this time. He said, “Trump’s Tweet, and I
quote, ‘Terrible. Just found out that Obama had my wires tapped in Trump
Tower, just before the victory. Nothing found. This is
McCarthyism.’ Well, he says here ‘just found out that Obama had my wires
tapped.’ Not that he ‘tried’ to get them tapped, not that he went to the
court and requested it, so, to me, the burden now to some degree is going to be
on President Trump. I’m curious as to how he found out that allowed him
to write what he wrote. You know, so, uh, I think there’s a burden on the
President to come forth with something, and I sure as heck would think that if
he made a statement like this that the evidence, he would know, would be
requested. You know, so…”
Doug: “It
was interesting that Alex brought up the FISA court. I decided to do a
little digging here. Heat Street former editor Louise Mensch, during the
Summer, last year, according to her, the Obama administration,
during the Summer last year, filed a request with the Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance court, FISA court, to monitor communications involving
Trump, and several advisers. But, the request was denied. Just a
day before the 2016 election, Mensch reported that sources with links to the
counter-intelligence community, confirmed that a Foreign Intelligence
Surveillance Court (FISA) had granted a FISA court warrant in October to
monitor activities in Trump tower. So, that’s, so, it sounds like to me Trump
isn’t just blowin’ smoke, here. If this woman Mensch is right.”
Dennis:
“If they gave authority in October, surely they didn’t request the authority,
so when they got it, they wouldn’t do anything with it.”
Doug:
“Well, the question is, did they wait until they got approval? Or have
they been doing it all along?
‘Well, we better try again to get approval.’”
Russia is in collusion with Trump
and the Republicans narrative to cover-up their own illegal wire-tapping
activities
Alex:
“We know that Obama lied about James Rosen. His people said, ‘oh, no,
we’re not investigating any journalists.’ And yet, they have him down as
an uninvited co-conspirator. So, this is not beyond the pale for these
people to do.”
Doug:
“And, now, from what I’m reading, now, is that the new FISA request in October
was because they said there were suspected links to Russia. That’s why they
wound up getting it approved. Because it was a national security
issue. Uh, so now, um, interesting. I have said this all along. The
thing has been that while we’re accusing Trump of allowing Russia to mettle in
the election, they want him to be President; but that goes against all logic,
does it not? I mean, go back to Kennedy, who was kissy-kissy with Russia,
when Teddy Kennedy was a Senator. You tell me, Alex.”
Alex:
“He went to, uh, I forget which dictator they had going in Russia right then,
the one that died early.”
Doug:
“Yeah, he was having drinks with him, if I remember properly.”
Alex:
“And he told him, ‘don’t worry about this cowboy, we’ll help ya take ‘em
down.’ Uh, you got, uh, what’s his name, the Senator that went to
Nicaragua, and told the Nicaraguans, ‘don’t worry, we’re going to do a Boland
Amendment to cut off the Contra’s funds. So, the Democrats have
played this game sufficiently, they’re projecting their own sins upon the
Republicans, once again.”
Dennis:
“Well, then, of course, the famous quote off-mic, that was recorded.”
Doug:
“Obama to Medvedev.”
Dennis:
“Exactly. Where he says, ‘After the election and I’ll have a little more,
uh…”
Doug:
“Flexibility.”
Dennis:
“Flexibility.”
Doug:
“Yep, so who’s really in bed with the Russians? Who really is? It’s
almost like this is cover-fire, isn’t it?”
Alex:
“The reason Obama doesn’t like the Russians is because they are no longer the
Soviet Union. They betrayed him. Kind of like the reason they hate
the Patriot Act. It’s the name that bothers them.”
Dennis:
“You think his roots with Frank Marshall Davis, that the communists have gone
too far off the plantation, is that what you’re sayin’?”
Alex:
“I’m saying he’s following Frank Marshall Davis’s playbook to the letter.”
Doug:
“Here’s the thing, too. They’re frustrated, because the election of 2016
has all these politicians, the leftists especially, not sure what to do.
I mean, the system has belonged to them for so long, and now this outsider,
Donald J. Trump, has grabbed the reins. The establishment is beside
itself. It doesn’t know what to do. They couldn’t stop him in the
presidential election. They couldn’t stop him with unconstitutional
rulings by federal judges. They couldn’t stop Trump with rioting
snowflakes making fools out of themselves in the streets. They couldn’t
stop Trump with a complicit mainstream media. So, the Democrats are down
to their final weapon. A nuclear laser weapon. Barack Obama.
They’re using Barack Obama to tap this, and do that, and work behind the
scenes, and also what we were talking about earlier, this infiltration by the
left, the bureaucrats and enemy staffers that are in there, because they don’t
know how else to do it. They don’t know how else to take him down.
These leaks that we’re seeing, they’re being perpetrated, I’m sure, by the
Obama administration holdovers, and other liberal left staffers who man the
proverbial fourth branch of government, the administrative branch. But, I
mean, and these people are not elected, they never seem to leave. This
year’s staffer for a Republican Congressman may have worked for a Democrat last
year, and Bernie the year before, for all you know. They are the keepers
of the system. The readers and the interpreters of the bills. They
are the true controllers of the establishment. And, even through the
leftwing staffers and bureaucrats remain in the federal government, the
politicians, and the leaders, they feel like they’ve lost a hold of it.
They’ve lost their grip. I mean, we got 1.3 million non-defense civilian
workers in the federal workforce. And, you know, the question is, how
many of those have an intention to politically damage the Trump White House?”
Alex:
“Damn near all of them. The interesting thing to me is that they’ve been
backed up and backed up so far that now they are revealing their hand.
The tapes of what’s his name’s conversations…”
Doug:
“Podesta is one of them.”
Alex:
“Illegally made, illegally transmitted to the newspapers, we know that it’s
Trump, excuse me, it’s Obama holdovers, we don’t know their particular names.”
Doug:
“Breitbart News had a conversation with a
source that had working with the Department of Homeland Security for more than
a decade, and supports Donald Trump’s agenda, President Trump’s agenda, and
this is his quote, ‘“If you go down the list of current management at United
States Citizenship and Immigration Services, USCIS, probably 80 percent are
open-borders left-wing ideologues. The USCIS probably has the most
violent anti-border people in the United States. These are in the management.
These do not believe in borders. I know them personally.”
I
provided the transcript from that portion of my KMET
1490-AM radio program because I believe the conversation brings
a very important treasonous possibility to light.
I
ask again, “Was the whole thing about having allegations about Russian
intrusion into our election all about covering up the fact that the Democrats
were wire-tapping Trump, and other Republicans, already? But, to avoid a
Watergate scenario, in case it was found out, they could simply attach it to
the Russian influence allegations? Was the plan to point fingers at the
GOP and Russia being in cahoots with each other dreamed up so as to explain
away illegal, Watergate-style wiretapping, so that it would be easier to get
away with it in case the reality of what the Democrats were doing got out
there?”
That
makes the bugging of Trump, and other Republicans, a larger cover-up than
Watergate, because the Democrats consciously created the “Russia is in
collusion with Trump and the Republicans” narrative to cover-up their own
illegal wire-tapping activities.
* I
erroneously said “1990s” during the program - a ridiculous error, since I know
the history of Watergate quite well. I was a child during the Nixon
years, but remember my parents following the whole affair on television during
the early 1970s.
Douglas
V. Gibbs of Political Pistachio Conservative News and
Commentary, has been featured on “Hannity” and “Fox and Friends” on Fox News
Channel, and other television shows and networks. Doug is a Radio Host on
KMET 1490-AM on Saturdays with his Constitution Radio program, as well as a
longtime podcaster, conservative political activist, writer and
commentator. Doug can be reached at douglasvgibbs [at] yahoo.com or
constitutionspeaker [at] yahoo.com.
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