There's a miserable family called
Stein:
There's Gert and there's Ep and there's Wein.
Gert's poems are noise,
Ep sold little boys,
And Hollywood was raped by Wein.
It's rather remarkable to see how some Judeo-Christians will twist and contort themselves to try to somehow a) condemn pedophilia and child molestation while b) avoiding any condemnation of the teachings of their rabbis or the rabbis themselves.
Consider this recent Twitter exchange:
There's Gert and there's Ep and there's Wein.
Gert's poems are noise,
Ep sold little boys,
And Hollywood was raped by Wein.
It's rather remarkable to see how some Judeo-Christians will twist and contort themselves to try to somehow a) condemn pedophilia and child molestation while b) avoiding any condemnation of the teachings of their rabbis or the rabbis themselves.
Consider this recent Twitter exchange:
Supreme
Dark Lord @voxday
Hollywood values are Jewish values. There are no "Judeo-Christian" values. Ask any rabbi.
((( 🐸))) @usershem
Why imply that Hollywood degeneracy is a Jewish value?
Mr. Smith @ClazyAsylum
Is this the Jewish version of “Islam is a religion of peace”?
((( 🐸))) @usershem
Judaism is not degenerate
Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
The entire history of the Jews in the USA proves that to be a false statement. Do you accept Christian morality as the metric?
((( 🐸))) @usershem
I agree that most Jews are degenerate. I disagree that Judaism is degenerate. Most Jews don’t follow Judaism.
Mr. Smith @ClazyAsylum
Following Judaism wouldn’t be degenerate at all. Oh, wait... (Warning: picture of rabbi performing metzitzah b’peh.)
((( 🐸))) @usershem
What does the rampant pedophilia in the church tell us about Christians?
Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
That Vatican II was an abomination, it is a mistake to permit homosexuals in the Church, and Christians should be guided by the Bible.
((( 🐸))) @usershem
I have not seen you condemn pedophila in the church in this exchange. Tell us more about your Christian values.
Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
Weak, degenerate. All pedophile clergy in the Church should be excommunicated, then executed. Do you support the same for those rabbis?
((( 🐸))) @usershem
Why can you disavow degeneracy on behalf of Christians but I can’t disavow degeneracy on behalf of Jews?
Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
You can. But you are not disavowing the teachings or the authorities that EXPRESSLY PERMIT that degenerate behavior.
((( 🐸))) @usershem
Show me a degenerate teaching and I will condemn it and the claimed authority that teaches it.
Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
Do you condemn and disavow Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai? At what age does the Talmud say "the sexual matureness of woman is reached"?
((( 🐸))) @usershem
I’m not a fan of Shimon bar Yohai, since he had a low opinion of common folks.
Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
That is not a disavowal. Do it unambiguously. Don't play word games. Condemn him and disavow him as an evil man teaching evil laws.
((( 🐸))) @usershem
I’m not sure what you hate about bar yohai so much, but I condemn all rape, pedophilia and degeneracy, and any who condone it
Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
You are not fooling anyone, liar. You know Simeon ben Yohai's teachings and yet you will not condemn or disavow him. Why not?
((( 🐸))) @usershem
As far as I know he did not condone pedophilia, but if he did I condemn and disavow. How can I be clearer?
((( 🐸))) @usershem
As for the Talmud, there is a difference between when a woman is a woman and when one is allowed to marry her.
((( 🐸))) @usershem
Talmud does not permit rape, pedophilia or child marriage.
((( 🐸))) @usershem
It does however hold that if a young child is molested/raped in violation of the law she remains a virgin for legal/marriage purposes
((( 🐸))) @usershem
So degenerate, protecting the innocent.
Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
No, it is to protect the ASSAILANT. The innocent cannot throw guilt on him. You are literally defending pedophiles now, degenerate.
((( 🐸))) @usershem
Just because a raped child is legally considered a virgin doesn’t mean the rapist is not punished. You are the one contorting.
Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
Either condemn Simeon ben Yohai as an evil man teaching evil practices and disavow him or stand revealed as a degenerate pedo-defender.
Hollywood values are Jewish values. There are no "Judeo-Christian" values. Ask any rabbi.
((( 🐸))) @usershem
Why imply that Hollywood degeneracy is a Jewish value?
Mr. Smith @ClazyAsylum
Is this the Jewish version of “Islam is a religion of peace”?
((( 🐸))) @usershem
Judaism is not degenerate
Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
The entire history of the Jews in the USA proves that to be a false statement. Do you accept Christian morality as the metric?
((( 🐸))) @usershem
I agree that most Jews are degenerate. I disagree that Judaism is degenerate. Most Jews don’t follow Judaism.
Mr. Smith @ClazyAsylum
Following Judaism wouldn’t be degenerate at all. Oh, wait... (Warning: picture of rabbi performing metzitzah b’peh.)
((( 🐸))) @usershem
What does the rampant pedophilia in the church tell us about Christians?
Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
That Vatican II was an abomination, it is a mistake to permit homosexuals in the Church, and Christians should be guided by the Bible.
((( 🐸))) @usershem
I have not seen you condemn pedophila in the church in this exchange. Tell us more about your Christian values.
Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
Weak, degenerate. All pedophile clergy in the Church should be excommunicated, then executed. Do you support the same for those rabbis?
((( 🐸))) @usershem
Why can you disavow degeneracy on behalf of Christians but I can’t disavow degeneracy on behalf of Jews?
Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
You can. But you are not disavowing the teachings or the authorities that EXPRESSLY PERMIT that degenerate behavior.
((( 🐸))) @usershem
Show me a degenerate teaching and I will condemn it and the claimed authority that teaches it.
Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
Do you condemn and disavow Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai? At what age does the Talmud say "the sexual matureness of woman is reached"?
((( 🐸))) @usershem
I’m not a fan of Shimon bar Yohai, since he had a low opinion of common folks.
Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
That is not a disavowal. Do it unambiguously. Don't play word games. Condemn him and disavow him as an evil man teaching evil laws.
((( 🐸))) @usershem
I’m not sure what you hate about bar yohai so much, but I condemn all rape, pedophilia and degeneracy, and any who condone it
Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
You are not fooling anyone, liar. You know Simeon ben Yohai's teachings and yet you will not condemn or disavow him. Why not?
((( 🐸))) @usershem
As far as I know he did not condone pedophilia, but if he did I condemn and disavow. How can I be clearer?
((( 🐸))) @usershem
As for the Talmud, there is a difference between when a woman is a woman and when one is allowed to marry her.
((( 🐸))) @usershem
Talmud does not permit rape, pedophilia or child marriage.
((( 🐸))) @usershem
It does however hold that if a young child is molested/raped in violation of the law she remains a virgin for legal/marriage purposes
((( 🐸))) @usershem
So degenerate, protecting the innocent.
Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
No, it is to protect the ASSAILANT. The innocent cannot throw guilt on him. You are literally defending pedophiles now, degenerate.
((( 🐸))) @usershem
Just because a raped child is legally considered a virgin doesn’t mean the rapist is not punished. You are the one contorting.
Supreme Dark Lord @voxday
Either condemn Simeon ben Yohai as an evil man teaching evil practices and disavow him or stand revealed as a degenerate pedo-defender.
Needless to say, he continued
to equivocate and feign ignorance until I finally blocked him for wormtonguery.
Now, don't take my word for any of this. Look up the rabbi's teachings on sex,
marriage, and children, then decide for yourself. But do notice that usershem NEVER ANSWERED the
questions that would have nailed down his position, whether it was a Christian
metric for morality or the age of female sexual maturity. His behavior was even
intellectually shadier than it looks here, because on another tangent he
defended the degenerate practice of metzitzah b’peh as abuse, but
not molestation, because he somehow magically knows the pure intentions of
every rabbi who ever put mouth to underage genitals.
Also notice the way his attempt to deflect moral degeneracy onto the Christian Church was abandoned as soon as he realized that I was not going to defend the degenerates there, but was perfectly happy to condemn them, disavow them, and see them punished. The contrast between my reaction and his on the subject could not be more clear.
This is the Judeo-Christianity that our conservative friends hail so warmly. This is the Judeo-Christian values that many conservatives claim to be the basis for America's founding. This is the intellectual spirit of Judeo-Christ. It is devoted to the exact opposite of the truth as it is designed to conceal, obfuscate, distract, and mislead.
I did find it a little ironic to see how willing this usershem was to throw literally "most Jews" under the degenerate bus in order to try to break the observable link between the religious teachings and the infamous Hollywood/Media/Wall Street degeneracy. There are plenty of decent Jews who abide by the Christian standards of morality as well as any Christian, and indeed, there are more than a few Christians who happen to be of Jewish descent. They would not hesitate to condemn evil teachings or evil men.
But it should be obvious that "Judeo-Christianity" is not Christianity and that "Judeo-Christian values" are not Christian values and neither reflect nor respect Christian morality.
Now, I understand that the urge to defend one's identity is a natural, powerful, and instinctive one. But should you ever find yourself tempted to defend the ongoing commission of unmitigated evil targeting innocent children on the grounds of tradition, fear, or good intentions, you should seriously consider the source of that temptation. There simply is no defending this sort of thing, or pretending that there is no possible connection between the medieval teachings and the actions today.
UPDATE: Larry David does his best to get out in front of the growing Hollywood Values scandal.
Also notice the way his attempt to deflect moral degeneracy onto the Christian Church was abandoned as soon as he realized that I was not going to defend the degenerates there, but was perfectly happy to condemn them, disavow them, and see them punished. The contrast between my reaction and his on the subject could not be more clear.
This is the Judeo-Christianity that our conservative friends hail so warmly. This is the Judeo-Christian values that many conservatives claim to be the basis for America's founding. This is the intellectual spirit of Judeo-Christ. It is devoted to the exact opposite of the truth as it is designed to conceal, obfuscate, distract, and mislead.
I did find it a little ironic to see how willing this usershem was to throw literally "most Jews" under the degenerate bus in order to try to break the observable link between the religious teachings and the infamous Hollywood/Media/Wall Street degeneracy. There are plenty of decent Jews who abide by the Christian standards of morality as well as any Christian, and indeed, there are more than a few Christians who happen to be of Jewish descent. They would not hesitate to condemn evil teachings or evil men.
But it should be obvious that "Judeo-Christianity" is not Christianity and that "Judeo-Christian values" are not Christian values and neither reflect nor respect Christian morality.
Now, I understand that the urge to defend one's identity is a natural, powerful, and instinctive one. But should you ever find yourself tempted to defend the ongoing commission of unmitigated evil targeting innocent children on the grounds of tradition, fear, or good intentions, you should seriously consider the source of that temptation. There simply is no defending this sort of thing, or pretending that there is no possible connection between the medieval teachings and the actions today.
UPDATE: Larry David does his best to get out in front of the growing Hollywood Values scandal.
